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"we cease to see things first of all as they are—to measure all things, even humanity, by that which stands outside of and beyond them. Instead we come to see things solely as we are, without tempering that vision by any external reference"

There's so much in this piece which is fascinating and which I need to read multiple times, but this part has really caught my attention. Thanks for this.

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G. M. (Mark) Baker's avatar

The theological-aesthetical language has made me itchy from the start. If it means, how theology can inform art, fine. Beyond giving it a basic anthropology, I am not convinced that theology has much information for art, just as it has not much information for mathematics or plumbing. But if it has more to say, fine, I'll listen. If it means how aesthetics are governed by theology, then no. If art tells the truth about human experience, it needs no restriction from theology. They are separate and co-equal.

I get similarly itch over things like: "He is not talking about “mere appearance,” nor simply about the physical—this “impossible marriage with matter…” which “spoils all man’s taste for love”—but about all the multifarious ways in which intangible goodness and truth get themselves expressed in and through the visible. He is trying to get at “the very language of light.”

Words get used to mean many things, some of which are related only by analogy. If beauty does not mean the attractiveness of physical things and experiences, this is using the same word to talk about something else entirely, an abstraction that strikes me as more romantic than informative. “the very language of light,” strikes me as just such a romantic notion that moves us by the romance of words alone without any reference to anything real or substantial. As regards beauty, it seems to mean having the feeling one gets from seeing things that are physically attractive but without the prosaic business of actually looking at an individual attractive thing. Feeling humble without actually looking at the sublime waterfall. I'll take mere prettiness over an unobtainable abstraction of absolute beauty any day.

Of course, I have not read the relevant parts of von Balthasar and am reacting only to my impression of the text before me with the haste that one necessarily brings to a comment on the web. But the dots are not connecting for me here, and I set this down only to demonstrate how far apart they seem to me at the moment.

And I'm not sure what need I have of intangible goodness and truth. The word became flesh and dwelt amongst us. Goodness and truth became tangible. An intangible is an idea without an instantiation. But in Christ we have the instantiation. In those who live in the imitation of Christ we have further, if imperfect instantiations. And in the rest of humanity we have potential instantiations who are interesting to us, and worth of treatment in art, worthy of having their stories told, precisely because the are vessels designed and created to be instantiations. Christianity is a religion of instantiations, not abstractions. The eucharist is an instantiation, not a symbol or an abstraction. Don't give me intangibles. Give me instantiation and the vessels made for instantiation. Give me their real flesh and blood stories and their real flesh and blood beauty and ugliness. Because there is noting impossible about the marriage with matter. That's the point of the incarnation. (Still reacting off the cuff here.)

At very least, as artists, if we are to do anything to sharpen the reader's attention to beauty, it will be by presenting to them individual concrete beautiful things. If that leads them off into philosophical abstractions about the nature of beauty or the apprehension of the Platonic form of beauty itself, that is none of our business. Tell the philosophers that the artists say hello when you get there.

If art is concerned with seeing, then it is concerned with tangibles. We cannot see intangibles, we can only think them. Unless seeing does not mean seeing, as beauty does not mean beauty. But then what is left of realism?

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